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January 7, 2024
Episode #9: Not About The Titles

Not About The Titles

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This episode of After Further Consideration features Dr. OiYan Poon, co-director of the College Admissions Futures CoLab and a scholar whose work examines racial policies, education access, and affirmative action. Dr. Poon shares her inspiring journey from higher education practitioner to scholar and consultant, exploring how her personal and professional experiences have fueled her commitment to equity and systemic change in higher education. Packed with actionable insights and reflections, this conversation sheds light on the intersections of leadership, equity, and impactful work in the academic and practical realms of higher education.

Key Takeaways

  • Leading for Change: Leadership is less about titles and more about staying true to values and fostering meaningful change.
  • Relationships Drive Impact: Building trust and genuine relationships is essential for research and policy work that creates sustainable change.
  • Equity as a Guiding Principle: Remaining grounded in equity requires a constant focus on community impact and collective learning.
  • The Power of Reflection: Effective leadership starts with understanding historical and organizational contexts before taking action.
  • Self-Care is Essential: Leaders must prioritize their well-being to sustain impactful work over the long term.

Episode Summary

What Inspired Dr. OiYan Poon’s Leadership Journey?

Dr. Poon traces her leadership journey back to her childhood experiences as the daughter of immigrants in Massachusetts, navigating both financial and racial traumas. Her passion for creating a more racially just society was sparked during college, where she combined her role as a resident advisor with transformative learning in ethnic studies. These formative moments inspired her to pursue a career in higher education, eventually leading her to research and systemic advocacy.

Why Transition from Student Affairs to Academia?

While working in student affairs, Dr. Poon often encountered challenges in convincing higher-ups to adopt equity-focused strategies. The recurring demand for “evidence and data” motivated her to pursue a PhD to gain the research skills necessary for systemic change. Her motivation wasn’t prestige but equipping herself with the tools to advocate for social justice and equity more effectively.

What Defines Leadership in Higher Education?

Dr. Poon highlights that leadership in higher education must extend beyond individual accolades to collective impact. Whether leading state-wide convenings or consulting on policy, her approach centers on relationships, shared learning, and trust—particularly important in litigious fields like college admissions.

How Can Scholars Bridge the Gap with Practitioners?

Through her work with the College Admissions Futures CoLab, Dr. Poon fosters collaboration between scholars and practitioners, emphasizing the need for a common language and shared goals. These partnerships are crucial for translating research into actionable strategies that address real-world challenges.

What Are Dr. Poon’s Defining Leadership Moments?

Becoming a mother was a pivotal moment that reoriented Dr. Poon’s priorities toward making her work impactful and accessible. This personal experience reinforced her belief in the importance of communicating research findings in ways that resonate beyond academic circles, driving real change in policy and practice.

How Does Dr. Poon Stay Grounded in Equity?

Dr. Poon integrates equity into her leadership by constantly reflecting on her values, journaling, and relying on trusted relationships to keep her accountable. She stresses the importance of understanding organizational and historical contexts to craft strategic, equity-focused initiatives.

What Advice Does Dr. Poon Offer to Emerging Leaders?

Dr. Poon advises leaders to “live a lit review” by understanding the stories and systems that precede their arrival. This reflective practice allows leaders to build on existing strengths while thoughtfully addressing challenges. Additionally, she emphasizes focusing on small, sustainable actions that collectively lead to transformative change.

About The Show: After Further Consideration isn’t just another podcast — it’s your guide to pioneering DEI leadership in higher ed. Get cutting-edge strategies and expert insights that are directly applicable to the challenges you face daily. Lead with confidence, drive institutional change, and make a meaningful difference for your students and staff.

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Host

Dr. Tomika Ferguson is Assistant Dean for Student Affairs and Inclusive Excellence and Professor of Educational Leadership at Virginia Commonwealth University.

Dr. J. Cody Nielsen is a higher education practitioner and faculty member currently working full time at Dickinson College in the Division of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.

Interviewee

Dr. OiYan Poon

Dr. OiYan Poon is an educator, author, speaker, and race and education scholar.

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