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March 25, 2025
Jamie Ceman on Women In Leadership [Lessons in Leadership]

Jamie Ceman on Women In Leadership [Lessons in Leadership]

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About the Episode

Carrie welcomes Jamie Ceman for an empowering discussion on overcoming gender bias in the workplace. Jamie shares two pivotal moments in her career—one where she successfully fought back against discrimination and another where she realized the workplace culture wouldn’t change. From being denied access to essential job tools to being told her male counterpart had more credibility, Jamie’s experiences highlight the resilience required to navigate gender barriers. If you’ve ever faced workplace bias, this episode offers valuable insights on when to push forward and when to seek new opportunities.

Key Takeaways

  • Gender Bias Often Manifests in Workplace Access – Women are sometimes denied the same tools and resources as their male colleagues.
  • Taking Strategic Action Can Lead to Change – Jamie turned workplace bias into an opportunity, learning new skills and ultimately earning a leadership role.
  • Some Cultures Won’t Change – In certain environments, systemic bias is too ingrained, and it may be necessary to move on.
  • Confidence is Often Questioned – Many gender biases stem from the assumption that women are less competent, even when they have equal or greater expertise.
  • Cultural Change Takes Time – Women leaders can help plant the seeds of progress, even if they don’t see the full impact immediately.

How can women push back against workplace bias?

Jamie shares an early career experience where she was denied access to essential job tools while her male colleague had no such restrictions. Rather than accepting this barrier, she took matters into her own hands—learning from the network administrator, gaining expertise, and eventually earning a promotion that gave her the authority to correct the imbalance. Her story serves as a powerful example of how persistence and strategic action can turn workplace discrimination into a leadership opportunity.

When is it time to move on from a biased workplace?

While Jamie’s first experience had a positive outcome, not all situations are fixable. In a later role, she was told outright that her male counterpart had more credibility and that she should have him present her ideas to gain traction. The blatant sexism in this moment made her realize that some workplaces simply won’t change. This led to an important lesson—while it’s valuable to push for equality, it’s also crucial to recognize when a company’s culture won’t evolve and to seek better opportunities elsewhere.

How can women stay confident despite bias?

Carrie and Jamie discuss the frustration of having their competence questioned simply because of their gender. While it’s discouraging to have to work harder for the same recognition, it’s important for women to stay confident in their abilities. Change happens gradually—sometimes, women leaders can be the ones to shift workplace culture, and other times, they must leave a seed of change for the next person. Regardless of the outcome, knowing your worth and standing firm in your expertise is key to navigating gender bias in leadership.

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People in this episode

Host

Dr. Carrie Phillips is the Chief Communications & Marketing Officer at UA Little Rock where she is charged with telling the university’s incredible story. She considers herself part creative and part analyst but fully curious to solve challenges in higher education. Carrie earned her doctorate from Texas Tech University where she studied how regional public universities are using marketing efforts to mitigate the enrollment cliff. Prior to joining UA Little Rock, she worked 14 years at Arkansas Tech University where she led a brand study, the first comprehensive brand campaign and oversaw collateral development for the current comprehensive campaign. Carrie is a member of the American Marketing Association and holds the Professional Certified Marketer credential. She is also chair-elect of the District IV Cabinet for CASE and a member of UCDA. Finally, she is a puppy mom to Eleanor Belle—a 10-pound maltipoo.

Interviewee

Jamie Ceman

Jamie Ceman is the Vice President of Strategic Marketing and Communications for Chapman University. Jamie began her role as vice president on February 6, 2018. She came to Chapman with 20 years of marketing and digital experience in both the public and private sectors. Prior to joining Chapman, she served as the Assistant Chancellor of University Marketing and Communications at the University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh. Originally from the Midwest, Jamie’s career includes e-business consulting in the private sector and e-commerce marketing for two national brands prior to entering higher education in the University of Wisconsin system.

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