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December 1, 2025
Episode 93: The Enrollify Clubhouse: AMA’s Spiciest Panel

The Enrollify Clubhouse: AMA’s Spiciest Panel

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About the Episode:

Mallory Willsea brings the Enrollify panel back together for a no-holds-barred reunion following their viral AMA session. Featuring Enrollify creator trio Jaime Hunt, Safaniya Stevenson, and Carrie Phillips, this episode revisits the spicy, unfiltered energy that turned heads at the 2025 AMA Symposium. From roasting overused marketing jargon to unpacking the real implications of AI hallucinations in fundraising campaigns, this conversation offers a pulse check on where higher ed marketing stands—and where it's headed.

Key Takeaways

  • Higher ed marketing needs fewer buzzwords and more brave leadership – Common phrases like “meet students where they are” or “tell our story better” have lost meaning without real strategic action.
  • The Featherstone campaign exposed our collective discomfort with risk – Many CMOs reacted emotionally, not because it was bad marketing, but because they wished they could do it.
  • Psychological safety is a prerequisite for bold ideas – Teams won’t pitch daring campaigns unless they trust leadership to support their vision, even when it's unconventional.
  • AI in higher education is creating real ethical dilemmas – A fabricated emotional narrative generated by AI could easily go undetected, prompting deep questions about authenticity and accountability.
  • Higher ed’s favorite operating system is “FOFU”—fear of effing up – Leaders must shift from fear-driven decision-making to embracing calculated risk-taking, especially in marketing.
  • The mode matters in AI detection – The difference between AI-generated content and human thought leadership isn’t always obvious, especially when tone and delivery are stripped from context.
  • Marketing leaders must stop apologizing for having a seat at the strategy table – It's time to move from being tactical order-takers to strategic brand stewards.

Episode Summary: Your Higher Ed AMA Afterparty FAQ

What was the original AMA panel that inspired this episode?

The episode is a follow-up to the 2025 AMA Symposium for the Marketing of Higher Education panel, “Leading with Vision,” which became infamous for its unscripted, tell-it-like-it-is energy. Instead of corporate fluff, the panel dove into higher ed’s unspoken norms, from overused marketing buzzwords to the sector’s resistance to risk and innovation.

Which marketing phrases need to die in higher ed?

The panelists unanimously agreed that some phrases are long past their prime. Carrie called out “tell our story better,” while Jaime rolled her eyes at “reporting tactics” masquerading as KPIs. Safaniya took aim at “meeting students where they are,” arguing that the phrase has become a hollow cliché when not backed by intentional messaging or real listening.

What’s the deal with the Featherstone University campaign?

The satirical campaign from Colorado Mesa University created an industry-wide stir. Many leaders were either impressed or outraged—some both. Jaime noted that the backlash reflected both envy and discomfort, especially from those who wouldn’t be allowed to do something so bold on their own campus. Safaniya added, “Hit dogs holler,” suggesting that those most offended might’ve seen something uncomfortably familiar in the parody.

What does this say about higher ed's appetite for bold marketing?

The Featherstone moment highlighted the sector’s risk aversion. Leaders want impact, but they’re often bound by a culture of consensus, legacy thinking, and fear. As Carrie noted, bold ideas should start as “what ifs” in psychologically safe environments—before they become too precious or too polished to revise. Jaime emphasized the importance of building internal credibility before proposing bold moves.

How do AI ethics fit into this?

The group revisited a scenario first shared at AMA: What if your institution’s most successful giving campaign was powered by AI—and later you discovered the emotional story at its center was fabricated? While some leaders might be tempted to stay quiet, all three panelists agreed the best response is transparency. Safaniya even suggested using the moment as an opportunity for AI literacy education—turning a crisis into a teachable moment for both campus and community.

Can you really not tell the difference between GPT and a real human quote?

Surprisingly, the live audience at AMA failed to consistently distinguish between ChatGPT and real C-suite quotes in a guessing game. That tells us a lot about the state of AI in higher education: the tools are advanced enough to mimic executive-level thought leadership—and maybe that means executives should reconsider what “thought leadership” even looks like.

What holds higher ed back from risk-taking?

One word: FOFU—the fear of effing up. Whether it’s a failed trend-jack or a budget overrun, all the panelists shared moments where fear nearly silenced them. Jaime discussed how psychological safety was the difference between playing it safe and going bold. Safaniya talked about being burned by trends and how it made her wary of moving too fast. Carrie recalled her early career budget disaster and the humbling that followed.

What permission slips should higher ed marketers give themselves?

  • Safaniya: Stop apologizing for slowing down. Marinating on strategy leads to better creative.
  • Jaime: Stop apologizing for having a seat at the leadership table. Own it.
  • Carrie: Stop apologizing for spending time on strategy instead of just tactics.
  • Mallory: Stop apologizing for saying no. You’re not a Canva elf—you’re a brand steward.

What’s the one thing panelists didn’t say at AMA—but are saying now?

From Jaime: Don’t stay in toxic environments. Life’s too short and your talent deserves better.

From Safaniya: Recalibrate your why. If you’re burned out or crabby, take a moment to reflect and reconnect with your mission.

From Carrie: Progress, not perfection. Leaders aren’t flawless—they’re learning out loud. And that’s okay.

Connect With Our Host:

Mallory Willsea
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallorywillsea/
https://twitter.com/mallorywillsea

About The Enrollify Podcast Network: The Higher Ed Pulse is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you’ll like other Enrollify shows too!  

Some of our favorites include Generation AI and Confessions of a Higher Education Social Media Manager.

Enrollify is produced by Element451 —  the next-generation AI student engagement platform helping institutions create meaningful and personalized interactions with students. Learn more at element451.com.

People in this episode

Host

Mallory Willsea is a strategist and consultant working at the intersection of higher education.

Jaime Hunt is the Founder of Solve Higher Ed Marketing, a consulting firm, and is the host of Confessions of a Higher Ed CMO.

Safaniya "Safy" Stevenson is a senior brand strategist and cultural analyst who transforms brands by understanding what makes audiences tick.

Dr. Carrie Phillips is the Chief Communications & Marketing Officer at UA Little Rock where she is charged with telling the university’s incredible story. She considers herself part creative and part analyst but fully curious to solve challenges in higher education. Carrie earned her doctorate from Texas Tech University where she studied how regional public universities are using marketing efforts to mitigate the enrollment cliff. Prior to joining UA Little Rock, she worked 14 years at Arkansas Tech University where she led a brand study, the first comprehensive brand campaign and oversaw collateral development for the current comprehensive campaign. Carrie is a member of the American Marketing Association and holds the Professional Certified Marketer credential. She is also chair-elect of the District IV Cabinet for CASE and a member of UCDA. Finally, she is a puppy mom to Eleanor Belle—a 10-pound maltipoo.

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